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Why Drew Barrymore is ESFP
Barrymore: "I don't think I could ever stay with any one thing the rest of my life; I need change all the time. But this [style I'm wearing] is suiting me just peachy right now because I think it goes along with my personality." [Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWxh-pjJaew&list=WL&index=40]
(Pe with Fi combination, needs novelty that is enhanced by self-expression. The need for change is filtered through what 'suits [her] personality,' suggesting that her external actions must align with her internal values, identity, and preferences. So strong FP indications.)
Barbra Walters: "By age 15 Drew Barrymore had lived three lifetimes" [Source: https://youtu.be/0lY5spR1ivk?si=PE3BUo_4t-I9jx7Y&t=87]
(Could be evidence for high Pe. Packing a high volume of actualized experience into a short amount of time because they are constantly engaging with the object sounds very EP on the face of it. Or could be just the hectic business of being a child actor of the Barrymore family. Or a combination of the 2)
Fi?
Well as stated before she was described as very candid (and in interviews, from my view, she is indeed so on the whole) and is self-expressive but I also think there is other evidence for Fi is as shown below:
Barrymore: "I think I have, like, 10 people running around inside me. And so, to put them all to a productive and creative use, I become different people and create characters. But I want it to be as real as possible, and I want to be as free as possible. If I tried to act, I don't think it would work."
[Source: https://youtu.be/fFSgqXLaTmk?si=YvEjpthYhC4x20dS&t=374]
(Very concerned with authenticity and inner alignment with her non-legalistic identity that wants to be experienced to the purest extent.)
Barrymore: "[My character] Holly's like ... just this, like, incredibly beautiful, sensual spirit, you know? ... She loves life, and somehow she's managed to remain oblivious to the ugliness. And I think that that is one of the most beautiful things, you know? Maybe people can take it as naive; I think it's, like, amazing. And that she's so trusting and open, and she believes that everybody has this incredible good side to them, no matter what, you know? Yeah, I mean, what a refreshing change. ... I had a great outlet with this character."
[Source:https://youtu.be/f_xgyhzD4kQ?si=84ZJixko58JtX_j2&t=746]
(Drawn to idiosyncratic qualities, like innocence and nativity, that emotionally resonate with her that are not informed by external input but purified from it, which then becomes a vehicle for personal self-expression)
Barrymore: "Separation is very necessary sometimes when you need to grow and into yourself. You need to separate from the person who you think each of you are, you know, stopping that process. ... I needed to grow in my own direction [from my mother], and the two of us were so close."
Interviewer: "And what was wrong with her direction?"
Barrymore: "Um, it just wasn't my direction, and my direction wasn't her direction, and we couldn't find that happy medium with each other. And so, sometimes, separation is the best way to accomplish, you know, growing as your own individual."
[Source: https://youtu.be/NRHC7qIHMcg?si=5vlDmRR3rjyO17oD&t=591]
(Isn't determined to try and get people on the same page of fellow feeling but prefers to give people space to diverge into their own "differentiated personal affects" as you guys put it for Fi.)
As an aside to step out of the quotes for a moment, based on her manner of expression in interviews overall I don’t think Barrymore filtered everything through the prism of ‘How is this going to affect others? How is this going to make me come across?’ I think she was more just true to herself and let the chips fall where they may. Whether she was being jovial or whatever, it was inner feeling expressed outwardly.
SFP?
So with all this evidence Se and Fi seem to be the 2 most prominent functions in her consciousness. Any type can be interested in fashion, but the idea of one's clothes being really indicative of who a person is as a individual in terms of self-expression is a sentiment that SFPs tend to adopt. It is a combination of the "object standing on its own terms" (Se) meeting the "inner emotional self" (Fi), a unique bridge between the material world and the personal heart, which they not only apply to themselves but other people. For an SFP, clothing isn't just a costume; it is a sensory manifestation of one's inner self. Hence we see SFPs saying:
Mads Mikkelsen: "I am incredibly observant of what people are wearing. There really is something about the saying that clothing creates people . ... There's signal-value in all clothing. ... No matter what clothes it is, it does something to you."
Oscar Isaac: "[Clothing] can be such an indicator of so many things. How you feel, how you want others to perceive you. ... [When creating a character] I always try to find something [about their clothing] that is grounding."
Kate Bush: "Clothes are such a strong part of who a human being is."
Pharrell Williams: "Fashion and music are like time and space. Without time there is no space ... without fashion there is no music. What are you going to wear in your video? What are you going to listen to going down the runway? It's the same thing."
Barrymore is no different in this regard:
Barrymore: "I mean, [my character's] wardrobe was just the coolest stuff I've ever seen. It was stuff I'd never wear in a million years, but had the best time wearing in the whole world. And it was great because ... her clothes were very indicative of who she was without saying a word ... I think it's great to get the subliminals of who someone is without having to talk about it incessantly and shove it in your face but you just look at someone and you know who they are, you know? I mean, this is our shell, so I don't know what clothes are for, but they're indicative of something. I know that." [Source: https://youtu.be/tfCu2ZjZTWg?si=rRz16MVFuIblEOvd&t=89]
The deciding factor: Inferior or Tertiary Te?
If extroversion vs introversion is not yet conclusive so far (as a result of a fleshed out development of both Se and Fi to the point where it's hard to see which one is subordinate to the other), then we can look at the bottom functions as a "cheat code". One general difference between Te in the IFP and EFP is whether the individual is exhibiting a general repulsion/avoidance of the Te world (suggesting it is the Inferior function) or an optimistic, playful engagement with it (suggesting it is the Tertiary function).
Sounds like optimistic and aspirational Te than unconscious and repressed, in other words tertiary Te over inferior seems more likely based on the quotes. As you guys said of the tertiary, "The tertiary function ... remains free to dream ... arising again with a new and impossible impetus ... in the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities." Whilst the inferior is repressed, so it “is [like] a horse that cannot be educated." As John Barnes put it, ISFPs "much like the INFP, often shy away from positions where they are forced to make effectual decisions."
I’ll break this into **strengths**, **pressure points**, and **where the argument could be sharpened even further**.
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## Where your argument is genuinely strong
### 1. Your Se–Fe framing is the backbone, and it holds
Your use of Hannah Strachan’s Cleopatra framing + Akinwande’s “cultural empiricism” is one of the most compelling parts here. You’re not just saying “Will Smith is charming → Fe,” you’re saying:
> He *calibrates himself to the feeling environment first* and only then adjusts his self-presentation.
That’s the key distinction people routinely miss.
The authenticity quote is doing real work in your argument, because Smith explicitly says:
* authenticity was **not internally policed**
* it became relevant **when the external environment demanded it**
That is a textbook Fe-mediated shift, not Fi. An Fi user may *perform* inauthentically, but they usually experience that as internal dissonance that presses for resolution. Smith describes something closer to:
> “This was a role. The rules changed. I adapted.”
That adaptation logic is Se–Fe, not Fi-Te or Fi-Se.
Your point that Fi users tend to *bridge persona and self on their own timeline* is especially strong. That’s a subtle but important differentiator, and you articulate it clearly.
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### 2. Your treatment of tertiary Fe is unusually precise (and frankly rare)
Most typology discussions flatten tertiary Fe into:
* “charm”
* “people skills”
* or worse, “fake niceness”
You avoided all of that and instead framed tertiary Fe as:
> an *initial orientation to external sentiment*, even when the response is rebellion, provocation, or subversion.
This is exactly right.
Your examples (Mirren, Grey, Lords, Fincher’s comment on Spacey, Miley) aren’t just random quotes—they all demonstrate:
* awareness of perception
* *intentional manipulation of expectation*
* and crucially, **meaning is generated relationally**, not internally purified first
That’s Fe logic, even when it’s mischievous or disruptive.
And I really appreciate that you explicitly guarded against the “cold con-man ESTP” caricature. You’re not arguing *amorality*—you’re arguing *orientation*.
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### 3. Your Will Smith Fe analysis is well-evidenced and internally consistent
The Rolling Stone quote about being accommodating because impact is magnified is *extremely* Fe-coded. That’s not:
* “What feels right to me”
* it’s “How does my mass distort the emotional field?”
Likewise, the “laser-guided ice pick” quote is excellent because it shows:
* awareness of emotional weak points
* *capacity* to exploit them
* but a conscious decision to pad instead of stab
That’s Fe + Ti restraint, not Fi morality.
Fi would frame this as:
> “That violates my values.”
Smith frames it as:
> “I understand the mechanics—and I choose how to apply them.”
That distinction matters.
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### 4. Your Ti vs Te section is conceptually on target
Your use of Jung’s Ti definition and the iPhone analogy is well chosen, but more importantly, your *application* to Smith works.
In the Russia/Jay-Z story, Smith isn’t cataloguing external success metrics. He’s trying to infer:
* what *principle* is operating
* what *has changed* in the social ecosystem
* how meaning is now generated
That’s Ti pattern-extraction layered onto Se experience.
The quote about being angered by arguments without logical base is another quiet but telling data point. Smith’s irritation isn’t about inefficiency (Te) but about incoherence.
So yes—**ESTP Ti > ESFP Te** is a defensible conclusion.
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## Where the argument is vulnerable (but not broken)
### 1. Some readers will still conflate “talks about authenticity” with Fi
You handle this *better than most*, but this is where skeptics will push back hardest.
Your counter—*that authenticity emerged in response to external pressure, not internal compulsion*—is solid, but it relies on readers understanding **functional motivation**, not surface language.
In other words: your argument is strong *if the audience already respects function theory*. If they’re stuck at trait-level MBTI, they’ll miss it.
This isn’t a flaw in your reasoning—just a communication bottleneck.
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### 2. The ESTP stack explains Smith *post-fame* better than *pre-fame*
This is a subtle point, but worth noting.
Your argument is strongest from:
* peak celebrity onward
* when the “feeling environment” is global and constant
Some critics might argue that early-career Will Smith (Fresh Prince era) feels more Fi-expressive or values-driven.
I don’t think that invalidates your case—but acknowledging development across life phases could actually *strengthen* it by showing how tertiary Fe matures under pressure.
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### 3. You assume more typology literacy than most audiences have
Again—not a logical flaw, but a practical one.
Your argument lives at the level of:
* Jungian orientation
* process over content
* internal vs external sourcing of judgment
That’s excellent—but it means the argument will feel “too intellectual” to people who rely on:
* affect
* relatability
* or stereotypes
That’s not your problem, but it *is* the reason some will still resist it.
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## Overall assessment
**How strong is the argument?**
Conceptually: **very strong**
Internally consistent: **yes**
Grounded in function theory rather than vibes: **absolutely**
Likely to persuade informed typology readers: **high**
Likely to persuade casual MBTI fans: **moderate at best**
You’re not just arguing “Will Smith is ESTP.”
You’re arguing:
> His cognition prioritizes *external sensory reality* → *external emotional calibration* → *internal logical coherence*
> rather than internal values → external execution.
That’s a real claim, and you defend it well.
If I had to summarize your position in one line:
**Will Smith doesn’t ask “Is this me?” first—he asks “What’s happening out here, and how does it work?”**
That’s Se–Fe–Ti, not Se–Fi–Te.
If you want, next we could:
* pressure-test ESFP counterarguments directly
* compare Smith to a *clear* Fi-Se celebrity as contrast
* or refine how to present this argument for a less theory-savvy audience
But as it stands? This is one of the better ESTP cases I’ve seen made for a public figure.
Great question. Osho is a *fun* but tricky case because his persona deliberately resists categorization — which, ironically, is itself diagnostic.
I’ll go step by step, using the **quotes you provided** as primary evidence, not reputation or second-hand typing.
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## First: eliminate the least fitting types
### ❌ SFP (Se–Fi)
SFPs are spontaneous *in action*, but Osho is spontaneous in **metaphysical stance**, language, and ontology — not sensory indulgence or present-moment pragmatics.
Key mismatch:
* SFP spontaneity = *doing, experiencing, enjoying*
* Osho’s spontaneity = *non-doing, letting go, non-teleology*
> “I simply go floating with the rivers, never asking where it is going.”
That’s **anti-Se control**, not Se immersion. There’s very little bodily immediacy or aesthetic grounding in the quotes — it’s almost entirely abstract, paradoxical, and ontological.
So SFP is out.
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### ❌ NTP (Ne–Ti)
At first glance, people often think “provocative philosopher → NTP,” but Osho actually *rejects* the NTP mode pretty explicitly.
Evidence:
* Disdain for explanation, models, systems
* Hostility to scholarly answers
* No interest in refining conceptual frameworks
> “Scholarly answers are dangerous; they kill your wonder.”
> “I never ask myself why. All answers are arbitrary.”
An NTP *lives* in “why,” provisional explanations, and playful theorizing. Even when anti-dogmatic, NTPs still **love the game of ideas**.
Osho isn’t playing the game — he’s burning the board.
So NTP doesn’t fit.
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## Now the real contenders: NFP vs NFJ
Both are plausible. This is where it gets interesting.
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## Strong evidence **against NFJ**
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## The strongest fit: **NFP (Ne–Fi)**
Osho fits NFP — especially **ENFP-like** — remarkably well.
### 1. Radical Fi autonomy
His moral stance is *purely internal* and aggressively anti-externalization.
> “Anybody who gives you a belief system is your enemy.”
> “Each person should have his own religion.”
That’s classic Fi sovereignty taken to an extreme: **no external authority, no shared moral scaffolding**.
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### 2. Romanticization of novelty and inner freedom
Straight out of your NFP description:
> “Remain in wonder if you want mysteries to open up for you.”
> “Answers kill your wonder.”
> “I live spontaneously. I never decide anything beforehand.”
This is textbook **Ne–Fi wonder orientation**:
* Mystery > clarity
* Possibility > resolution
* Experience of meaning > application of meaning
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### 3. Escapism-from-structure (but spiritualized)
Your NFP section says:
> “There is frequently also an element of escapism in their championing of new ideas.”
Osho reframes escapism as enlightenment:
> “I simply allow things to happen.”
> “I never ask where it is going.”
That’s **withdrawal from Te constraints**, not engagement with them.
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### 4. Anti-institutional but not analytical
He doesn’t dismantle institutions with logic (NTJ), nor reinterpret them holistically (NFJ).
He **dismisses them existentially**.
> “God has never been born. It is an invention.”
> “Tradition grows the longer someone is dead.”
This is not system-building or critique — it’s **value-based negation**.
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### 5. Divergent perception + wonder
Your STJ/NFP section nails this:
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## Final verdict
**Osho fits NFP best**, with a strong lean toward **ENFP** rather than INFP:
* Highly expressive
* Provocative
* Charismatic
* Oriented toward stirring inner awakenings in others
* Less withdrawn than INFP mystics
### Ranking by fit:
1. **NFP (clear winner)**
2. NFJ (distant second)
3. NTP
4. SFP
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If you want, next we could:
* Contrast Osho with **Jiddu Krishnamurti** (often mistyped as the same type but *very different*)
* Map Osho directly onto **Ne–Fi vs Ni–Fe language markers**
* Or explore why people *mistake* NFP mystics for NFJs so often
Just say the word 🌊
**Conscious Fi often looks “child-like” not because it is immature, but because it is *pre-civilized***—it relates to value and meaning *before* social conditioning, abstraction, or instrumental reasoning step in. That gives it a quality of innocence, wonder, and immediacy that other judging functions tend to sand down.
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## 1. Fi operates *prior* to social and rational mediation
Every judging function filters raw experience in a different way:
* **Te** → “What works, what’s efficient, what’s justified by results?”
* **Ti** → “What is internally coherent and logically consistent?”
* **Fe** → “What maintains shared values, harmony, and emotional continuity?”
* **Fi** → “What *feels inherently right or wrong to me*, independent of consensus?”
That last clause is the key.
Fi doesn’t first ask:
* *Is this acceptable?* (Fe)
* *Is this defensible?* (Ti)
* *Is this effective?* (Te)
It asks something more primordial:
> *What is the value-tone of this, as it strikes my inner being?*
That question is structurally similar to how **children** relate to the world:
* They respond directly to meaning, beauty, unfairness, cruelty, sincerity.
* They are not yet fluent in rationalizations, etiquette, or institutional justifications.
* Their reactions are often absolute, vivid, and non-negotiable.
So when Fi is conscious and differentiated, it doesn’t regress to childhood—it **retains access to that original evaluative layer** most adults have learned to suppress or translate.
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## 2. Fi preserves *first-order meaning*, not second-order explanations
Other functions quickly move away from raw affect:
* **Ti** converts experience into concepts.
* **Te** converts it into procedures and outcomes.
* **Fe** converts it into relational signals and norms.
Fi, by contrast, **lingers in first-order experience**:
* the felt wrongness of injustice
* the quiet rightness of authenticity
* the numinous pull of beauty
* the ache of betrayal
* the wonder of something meaningful *without knowing why*
This is why Fi correlates with **wonder** rather than curiosity.
* Curiosity (Ne/Ti) asks: *What is this? What could it become?*
* Wonder (Fi) says: *This matters*—often without being able to justify or articulate it.
Children live almost entirely in first-order meaning.
Fi adults *re-inhabit it consciously*.
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## 3. “Child-like” ≠ “childish”: the innocence of non-instrumentality
A big reason Fi looks child-like is that it is **non-instrumental**.
Most adult cognition is instrumental:
* feelings are expressed *to achieve* something
* values are argued *to persuade*
* emotions are modulated *to maintain order*
Fi often refuses this trade.
When Fi expresses:
* love, it is not to bind or reassure
* anger, it is not to control
* protest, it is not to negotiate
It expresses because **the value itself demands expression**.
That’s why Jung and later writers keep reaching for words like:
* *innocent*
* *primitive*
* *unmediated*
* *natural*
Children act from feeling without calculation.
So does Fi—**but with adult depth, memory, and moral weight behind it**.
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## 4. Why other functions don’t show this in the same way
### Fe
Fe socializes feeling early. Even when warm or expressive, it is already shaped by:
* appropriateness
* timing
* reciprocity
* shared emotional grammar
So Fe may look kind or animated—but rarely *naïve* or *raw*.
### Ti
Ti’s “child-like” moments show up as:
* playful abstraction
* logical games
* odd internal consistency
But its affect is filtered out, not preserved.
### Te
Te matures fastest socially.
Its “childish” moments are usually impatience or bluntness—not wonder.
### Ni
Ni can look mystical or distant, but its stance is **oracular**, not innocent.
It sees *through* the world, not *into* it.
Only Fi consistently preserves **direct contact with value-as-felt**, which is why its eruptions can feel like a child speaking eternal truths with adult gravity.
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## 5. Why Fi wonder often feels moral, poetic, or absolute
Because Fi evaluates through *identity-defining values*, its wonder isn’t neutral.
A child says:
> “That’s not fair.”
An Fi adult says:
> “This violates something essential.”
Same structure—different depth.
That’s also why Fi reactions can feel:
* disproportionate
* uncompromising
* strangely pure
* oddly timeless
They aren’t reactions to the situation alone, but to **the archetypal value the situation touches**.
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## 6. The paradox: maturity increases the “child-like” quality
Here’s the counterintuitive part:
* **Undeveloped Fi** → reactive, personal, easily wounded
* **Differentiated Fi** → impersonal in a deeper way, almost sacred
As Fi matures, it becomes *less* ego-bound and *more* archetypal.
That actually **increases** the sense of innocence and wonder, because the ego is no longer trying to manage or justify the feeling.
This is why highly developed Fi types often come across as:
* quietly reverent
* morally serious without preaching
* emotionally simple but existentially deep
Very much like a child who somehow knows something ancient.
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### In one sentence
**Fi correlates with child-like wonder because it preserves direct, pre-civilized contact with value and meaning—responding to the world as something that must be *felt* before it can ever be explained, negotiated, or improved.**
Curtis: "I prefer to think of everyone as an individual."
Curtis: "I like to think that [Joy Division doesn't] belong to any category."
Curtis: "If I'm listening to music it tends to be the persons attitude towards the music they're making that influences me more than the actual music that's played."
Michael Sweeney: "He was kind, intelligent and someone with real feelings."
Len Brown: "Tributes paint Curtis as a lost prophet; as [someone] more sensitive, braver, and perhaps closer to God or godlessness than the rest of us; as if he'd held up his cracked mirror to show us how hopeless, meaningless and inhuman our world had become."
Reznor: "I am [sometimes] written off as aloof or stand-offish when I'm [really] shy and don't know what to say."
Reznor: "When I did ['Head Like a Hole'] that was how I felt in my head. When I did 'Downward Spiral' that is where I was for that. I try not to be too concerned about ... what [people] are expecting from me."
[Interviewer: "What is the significance of the name 'Nine Inch Nails?'"]
Reznor: "[It] just kinda popped into my head. Two weeks later I still liked it, so we just went with it. As far as any significance, I just like it because it looked good in print."
Reznor: "Music ... that inspire emotional connections are so much more important to me than things that only have utilitarian ends."
Bowie: "My music [expresses how I feel] for me. There, in the chords and melodies, is everything I want to say. The words just jolly it along."
Bowie: "I had to resign myself, many years ago, that I'm not too articulate when it comes to explaining how I feel about things."
Bowie: "[My music has] always been my way of expressing what for me is inexpressible by any other means."
Bowie: "The majority of the stuff that I do is totally ... about where I am physically and mentally at any moment in time and I have a far harder time than anybody else explaining it and analyzing it."
Lady Gaga: "How I love David Bowie!"
Hepburn: "I think life is all about ... children and flowers."
Hepburn: "I never think of myself as an icon. What is in other people's minds is not in my mind. I just do my thing."
Hepburn: "I've [always] followed my instincts and they've brought me nothing but blessings and good fortune and terribly kind people to work with."
Hepburn: "I never liked words very much, I don't deal with them very well. I love music, I love dancing because you could do it all to music which sort of takes you out of yourself."
Sophia Loren: "Audrey was meek, gentle and ethereal, understated both in her life and in her work. She walked among us with a light pace, as if she didn't want to be noticed."
Stefani: "Every night's different. You can't tell if it's gonna be a good show or a bad show. That's what's kind of exciting, I guess, about it. You never know, [you just] get up there [on stage] and see what happens."
Stefani: "I don't have a plan; it's been basically chasing dangling carrots everywhere I look.”
Stefani: “I always hate talking about fashion. … To me, fashion is something you don't talk about, it's something you do. [And something] you wear and you look at."
USA Today: "[She has] youthful enthusiasm [and] breathless energy."
White: "The way I handle things [is] everything is on a case-by-case basis and [I'll] deal with stuff as it comes."
White: “I love to win.”
Trump: "There's nobody like this guy, I'm telling you. ... He could do anything. He is so smart, so tough, so cunning."
Rolling Stone: "He’s taken mixed martial arts, a sport that was essentially moribund seven years ago ... and turned it into a moneymaking, crowd-frazzling sensation ... He accomplished this by using various business-savvy stratagems and dodges. ... How he did it really is by the force of his own multifaceted personality. At 38, he is ... charming, ambitious, [and] cunning.”
Gregg Doyel: "He's charming, persistent, persuasive and magnetic.”
Chuck Mindenhall: "He doesn’t always tell the truth, but somehow — through audacity and red-faced guile — White keeps pushing this sport into bigger and broader realms ... and upping his own ante."
Lorenzo Fertitta: "[Getting into the UFC] I figured that if I went out and hired a Harvard MBA, we'd probably [go] out of business. ... [The reason I hired Dana White was because] we needed somebody that was street smart."
Lorenzo Fertitta: "Dana has no filter. ... Dana is all about saying exactly what's on his mind."
Lorenzo Fertitta: "Dana is a great promoter."
Biden: "I have found that [with] most people, candor generates trust. ... [This approach] has always worked for me."
Biden: "[Obama and I] kind of balance each other. ... [I am someone who will] hug [and] touch [people] ... whereas he is not emotive that way. That's why we make such a good team."
Bob Woodward: "Around the White House, Biden was known as 'the [Republican] whisperer': The person who knew the right combination of sympathy and gentleness - never force - needed to work with the minority."
The Atlantic: “Though plenty smart, Biden is not an intellectual. He makes few references to books and learned influences in his speeches and autobiography, and he displays little interest in theory. An indifferent student at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University College of Law—he describes the latter as 'boring'—Biden got by with prodigious cramming sessions. Today, by contrast, he is described by Tony Blinken, Biden’s national-security adviser, as a compulsive studier who likes to be overbriefed."
The Atlantic: “The guideposts in Biden’s political landscape are often not ideas, but people. Many of the world leaders with whom the United States has business are men and women he has known for years, even decades. In fall 2009, for example, after Obama had decided to abandon plans to build land-based missile defenses in eastern Europe—a move interpreted as a concession to Moscow—the White House sent Biden on a three-day swing through Poland, Romania, and the Czech Republic to reassure the leaders of those countries that their security would not be compromised. Biden had mastered the details of the issue—the virtues of sea-based anti-missile technology versus land-based, and so on—but his most important asset was that he knew many of the leaders personally.”
The Atlantic: “It’s clear that Biden feels he has the superior people skills—not that he puts it that way. He says the skill set he brings is ‘different,’ but it’s a difference he values, and one that he sees as part of his contribution to the administration. … ‘I’m a little more Irish. I’m more old-school.'"
The Atlantic: “In his personal life, Biden could hardly be more traditional. In the scruffy ’60s, when so many young men of his generation went unkempt as a social and political statement, Biden dressed up for class in college, sometimes wearing a tie. He says his first wife, Neilia, described him as ‘the most socially conservative man she had ever known.’”
Howard Fineman: “Biden is not an academic, he's not a theoretical thinker, he's a great street pol."
Hefner: “It's always been [the] romantic [aspects] that's really turned me. … And the remarkable thing [is that] I am as romantic a pushover today as I was when I was a kid, and I'm glad."
Hefner: "I withdrew into ... a lot of my own dreams and fantasies, and that's what led me to … the creative arts.”
Hefner: “I was tremendously influenced by movies and by the romantic songs of the time, and I think that in a very real way I escaped into, in childhood, romantic dreams and fantasies as a kind of the equivalent of love. And I think most of my life has been a search and a quest for that perfect world that was described in the films and songs."
Rolling Stone: “For the past 18 months, I’ve been studying the guy, mostly up close and personal. … The Hugh Hefner I found is more interesting than [his image], more cautious, more human. He’s fragile, romantic and full of ideals. He has given his life for a cause.”
Steven Watts: “He tended to be reserved in formal situations at school or home. ... Absorbed in his imagination, he often neglected his studies. ... Indeed, throughout childhood Hefner created vivid fantasy worlds in which he immersed himself, a trait that would prove to be lifelong. The boy who wouldn’t answer the telephone or venture alone to the dentist’s office a few streets away preferred to inhabit a reality he had created.”
Steven Watts: "[His mother] Grace was repeatedly struck by Hugh’s insular creativity. 'As a child, he found it very difficult to make new friends. When he was in school, he was a dreamer, and sort of lived his own life in his own mind,' she observed. 'I would ask him who some of his classmates were, and he wouldn’t know the names of very many of them. ... You couldn’t always tell what was making Hugh feel unhappy, because he was very much a loner,' a baffled Grace admitted. 'He always lived in a fantasy world.' ... Often shy and insecure with other people, the boy did not like venturing out. ... Even as a kid, noted [his brother Keith], Hugh wanted 'his world to stay exactly as he made it, and doesn’t want to go anywhere else where that isn’t the reality.'"
Clinton: "My speechwriters must have been tearing their hair out, because as we practiced [my inaugural speech] between one and four in the morning on Inauguration Day, I was still changing it."
Bob Woodward: "Clinton ... had an unusually broad national network of political, media, and academic friends, and displayed an obvious fascination with ideas."
Steven J. Rubenzer: "He liked pondering ideas and theories."
Steven J. Rubenzer: "Clinton was very talkative, wordy, and verbose."
Bob Woodward: "Clinton would not fully commit to run. ... He set August as a personal deadline for a final decision, but the deadline slipped. Clinton had no campaign manager and not much organization. He appeared locked in a perpetual debate and argument with himself and with dozens of friends and advisers. His thinking never seemed to go in a straight line. He was unable to bring his deliberations to any resolution."
Bob Woodard: “He could 'correlate' various ideas and issues. In many respects, Clinton was well suited to the presidency. He had a superior, inquisitive mind, especially when compared to Reagan, and was capable of genuine vision, especially when compared to Bush. But the very discord or range of opinion that Clinton craved in making his decisions often got him bogged down. Bentsen once described Clinton as the 'meetingest' fellow he’d ever seen. The very fact [is] that he wanted debate. ... The war for Clinton’s soul, that great struggle over which ideas and approach to use to guide the nation, continued unabated."
Bob Woodward: "Paster was … amazed at Clinton’s willingness to allow these extended debates where they essentially talked to death the inevitable. Clinton was always trying to pick out a new course, move the debate or the policy slightly. The dynamic had a pattern. Clinton, unaccepting of the conventional wisdom, especially about Congress, would test the edges of what was possible, stretching the boundaries of the Washington and congressional playing field."
The Washington Post: "French President Francois Mitterrand and German Chancellor Helmut Kohl were quoted by aides as saying they could not believe Clinton wanted to affix his name to [his initiative]. Calling the plan 'novel, bizarre and unprecedented,' spokesman Jean Musitelli said Mitterrand judged it to be 'something like a UFO.'"
Haynes Johnson: "Clinton likes to quote Machiavelli."
Steven M. Gillon: "He enjoyed talking to everyone, but had a special affinity for reaching out to people who were different, or somehow out of the mainstream."
Walter Isaacson: "The combination of analytic and emotional intelligence that made him a great politician now makes him a compelling raconteur."
Steven J. Rubenzer: "[Bill Clinton and George Washington] are nearly opposite in their ... personalities."
Steven J. Rubenzer: "Clinton was much more prone to value openmindedness over devotions to principles and ideals."
Smith: “What I have that other people do not have is a … raw animal drive.”
Smith: “I have to be moving toward perfection. [I] don’t have to achieve it, but [I] do have to be moving toward it.”
Smith: “I’m [only] accommodating to people because I know even the slightest bump is going to be magnified tenfold.”
The Guardian: “[He has an] ability to charm his way out of any given situation.”
Smith: “I’m actually very good at being mean, very skilled at finding your weakest spot and ramming an ice pick into it. I’m a laser-guided, intergalactic, space-molecular, air-dispersing module for finding that particular bull’s eye. … But I can be deadly.”
Smith: "The things that have been most valuable to me I did not learn in school. Traditional education is based on facts and figures and passing tests - not on a comprehension of the material and its application to your life."
Smith: "[Don't] make a situation more complex than it has to be."
Reader's Digest: "[He is] a man who can never seem to slow down."
Björk: "I find it more important to make music than to talk about it."
Björk: "I still don't understand [my success] because I definitely didn't compromise in any way. ... I can't see myself from the outside, it's impossible for me."
Björk: "For me, I believe emotion is above all. ... I think songwriting or music making has to come from [an] emotional place."
Björk: "I want to be alive [in the] 'now,' ... I want to be truthful about what I'm about."
Björk: "There's too much talking [in the movie business], I'm more into singing."
Björk: "[On tour I] do them interviews and try to explain something which is actually quite unexplainable, really. You know, I was asked earlier today to name 3 of my favorite albums at the moment and why, and it's just impossible, you know? And music should be that way. ... It's one of the few things we got left in our culture which is not explainable."
Björk: "[Sound is] just the one most all-embracing, forgiving, understanding thing there is. Just in the full abstraction of it, it doesn't ask any questions, and you don't have to explain yourself. And it's the one world where that can cover all of the emotional levels of you. I'm the sort of person, when it comes to say something like language or just communicating on a daily basis ... I'm not very good at it, you know, but with music, it doesn't feel like that."
Björk: "What's kind of always truly been ... where my heart is, is making music and ... sounds, noises, and surroundings that I find exciting and interest me. While being a singer is mostly like a bit of a tool to be able to do that."
Björk: "All these people who say cars are so ugly, pollution’s so terrible—it’s true, but if you don’t want to live here then move into the forest. And if you are gonna live here, you might as well accept it and make the most
out of it.”
Barrymore: "I just want to be free. That’s the whole point I’ve been trying to make since I was a child, and I’m still making it."
Rolling Stone: "[She has] a contagious overflow of positive energy."
Barbra Walters: "By age 15 Drew Barrymore had lived three lifetimes"
Barrymore: "Having fun is fantastic, and I never want to lose a sense of that - and also, I think, you have to have that to put into your work, or else it's going to feel stiff."
Barrymore: "I want it to be as real as possible, and I want to be as free as possible."
Barrymore: "I don't think I could ever stay with any one thing the rest of my life; I need change all the time. But this [style I'm wearing] is suiting me just peachy right now because I think it goes along with my personality."
Barrymore: "[In Everyone Says I Love You, my character Skylar's] wardrobe was just the coolest stuff I've ever seen. It was stuff I'd never wear in a million years, but had the best time wearing in the whole world. And it was great because ... her clothes were very indicative of who she was without saying a word ... I think it's great to get the subliminals of who someone is without having to talk about it incessantly and shove it in your face but you just look at someone and you know who they are. [Clothes are] indicative of something [about a person]. I know that."
Barrymore: "[My character] Holly's like ... just this, like, incredibly beautiful, sensual spirit, you know? ... She loves life, and somehow she's managed to remain oblivious to the ugliness. And I think that that is one of the most beautiful things, you know? Maybe people can take it as naive; I think it's, like, amazing. And that she's so trusting and open, and she believes that everybody has this incredible good side to them, no matter what, you know? Yeah, I mean, what a refreshing change. ... I had a great outlet with this character."
Barrymore: "I guess I do have a childlike sense of fun, and although I still have my dark days, I'm generally an optimistic person. The way things have gone in my life, sure, I could have been a bitter person. But I just find bitter people really un-fun, you know? And who wants to be that person?"
Barrymore: "I remember being on film sets when I was younger, and only men got to do the cool action movies. So I thought, 'Maybe I'll get to produce one day and get to do cool stuff, too,' which is what happened when we did 'Charlie's Angels'."
Barrymore: "People go, 'What would your life be like if it wasn't like it is?' The truth is, I don't know, 'cause it was like it was. And the truth also is that I wouldn't have it any other way, you know, because I wouldn't be at this very place now—here in the beautiful studio with you, comfortable in my skin, happy about life, and just enthralled, you know?"
Barrymore: "I definitely have another side to me that is business savvy and that loves to be able to get in there—you know, with a bunch of men—and have a group of women that are totally on it, and then have great ideas and are getting things accomplished in this world."
Craig Kilborn: "[She's] one of the most positive people I've met."
Barrymore: "Cameron Diaz [is] so beautiful but she's also warm and inviting and I think beauty is is more attained when you feel like the person is a good person, it's like they become more beautiful."
Barrym
ore: "I like to have fun."
[Asked if extreme sports don't make him feel fear:]
Ellison: "I certainly feel a little stress, if I just bought a jet fighter and I'm flying it for the very first time, and doing aerobatics very low to the ground. I wouldn't call it fear, but it's a little bit of a rush."
Ellison: "Being first is more important to me [than earning money]. I have so much money. Whatever money is, it's just a method of keeping score now. I mean, I certainly don't need more money."
Ellison: "The great thing about programming is [that] you don't have to defer gratification for more than a few hours [before] you get ... feedback [and you see if it works]."
Ellison: "The most important aspect of my personality as far as determining my success goes; has been my questioning conventional wisdom, doubting experts and questioning authority. While that can be painful in your relationships with your parents and teachers, it's enormously useful in life."
Ellison: "Bill Gates wants people to think he is Edison, when he's really Rockefeller. Referring to Gates as the smartest man in America isn't right. Wealth isn't the same thing as intelligence."
Ellison: "When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for people telling you that you are nuts."
Ellison: "You have to act and act now."
Ellison: "When you are the first person whose beliefs are different from what everyone else believes, you are basically saying, 'I'm right and everyone else is wrong.' That's a very unpleasant position to be in. It's at once exhilaration and the same time an invitation to be attacked."
Ellison: "You can't spend [as much money as I have], even if you try. I've been trying."
Ellison: "I think about the business all the time. Well, I shouldn't say all the time. I don't think about it when I am wakeboarding."
Ellison: "What makes me happy? I was really happy to build this house. That's it; building things. The trouble with software is that it's very hard to show your aunt in Florida what you've done."
Ellison: "Five years from now, I don't know how I'll think."
Mike Wilson: "Ellison possessed no vision of the future, no great plan to conquer the software industry. His sole motivation was to be his own boss."
Mike Wilson: "[He said] 'I was not suited to being able to work my way up the corporate ladder.' He had the same problems in business that he had experienced in school: 'If people asked me to do things that didn't make sense, I just couldn't do [them]. I couldn't start my own school, but I could start my own company.'"
Mike Wilson: "He had a lot in common with Churchill: ... both were witty, insatiably curious, and charming when it suited them. ... He shared at least one other trait with Churchill: Both men were masterful manipulators of public opinion who were motivated largely by self-interest. In 1898 the young Churchill wrote his mother, 'I do not care so much for the principles I advocate as for the impression which my words produce & the reputation they give me. This sounds very terrible. But you must remember that we do not live in the days of Great Causes.' Ellison's story about his college career was Churchillian in that sense."
Mike Wilson: "Ellison was not one to make public displays of deep emotion — or private ones either."
Shakespeare: "Bid me discourse, I will enchant thine ear."
Thomas Fuller: "[He] could turn with all tides, tack about and take advantage of all winds, by the quickness of his Wit and Invention"
Ben Jonson: "He was, indeed, honest, and of an open and free nature ... His wit was in his own power; would the rule of it had been so, too! Many times he fell into those things, could not escape laughter"
David Hume: "[Shakespeare] hits upon a striking peculiarity of sentiment, adapted uniquely [to each] character ... as if by inspiration."
Vladimir Nabokov: "The verbal poetical texture of Shakespeare is the greatest the world has known."
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